Will Ferrell

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[03:34] He was a couple of years ahead of me, I think. [03:37] And then, you know, got on to SNL, I think, three years before I got on, I think. What was it like to share an office together? What do you remember of those times in the late 90s being at the show? It was just so cool. It was so fun. You know, and after read-throughs on Wednesday, we'd go back and we'd all have a little scotch. We kept a bottle in the office. And that was a fun ritual. And sometimes we would kind of dress up. [04:02] A little bit in similar outfits. But it was it was a great such a great welcome to the show. Will, you know, obviously, in so many ways, it's so impressive. But I, I remember feeling, you know, insecure about. [04:19] being on the show and trying to get material on. And I remember asking us, [04:25] I was looking for comfort, assurance. [04:28] And I said, do you when you first started, you know, did it take you a while to get rolling and get up to speed? He's like, no, I just started right away. And I was like, and I was like, OK, well, that's that's cold comfort for me. But I knew it was I knew it was true because I'd seen his first show, you know. I mean, SNL was like the perfect job for Will. And he's really built for that show because he had the Constitution.

[04:58] trying to get stuff on and, [05:00] and just kind of competing with your friends in a weird way, but then also collaborating with them and all that stuff. And he just seemed to not, [05:06] Let that get in his head. It's true. I know. Also, he just... [05:11] you know, has always come across as pretty fearless to me and, uh, [05:16] just so confident, but, you know, never... [05:19] arrogant about it, you know, just like, [05:22] This is who I am. I got it. I'm confident. You know, I can do this. Yeah. What film and television have you guys done outside of SNL together? Well, Anchorman was the main thing. Right. I think The Hawk, this this upcoming series. Who do you play in that show, Parnes? I am on the PGA Tour board. I'm a PGA Tour board member and I'm kind of I. [05:44] I don't care for Will's character. I don't care for the Hawk. Excellent. I have quite a bit of animosity towards Will's character. Is your character the kind of guy that's upset at how Hawk doesn't take the sport seriously? Well, that's part of it, for sure. That is part of it. But it also has to do... [06:05] Without giving anything away, it has to do with personal matter that happened between us many years ago. Great. And it sort of comes back to the surface again. And, yeah, so I've got a personal grudge against him. And I'm also just really an uptight asshole, you know. [06:25] Which has come so naturally to me, you know. [06:28] Before we go, I just...

[06:30] You know, we do this to kind of talk well behind people's backs. And I think everybody knows that Will is a uniquely confident performer and obviously kind of like for many on the Mount Rushmore of comedy, frankly. But what is so great about him as a person? Because I find him to be a really wonderful person as well. What would you say? He's a good laugher. You know, I think that says a lot about a person, too. [07:00] be willing and free to laugh at other people really openly. And yeah, I just think he's a sweet guy. I just think he's a sweet guy by nature. Yeah. Is there a question you have for me today to ask him anything you're thinking of? Sure. Oh, look at Parnsey, so prepared. Always. Well, I was up for four hours thinking about this last night. I wrote a list of 50 [07:32] I guess one question would be, who were your comedy idols, your heroes growing up? Who did you look up to comedy wise? [07:43] That would be one. And then the other one might be, have you always been so confident? Yeah, I think that's a good one. It feels like if stuff is going down, you would kind of turn to Will, like, what are we going to do? Right. Right. Well, the last thing I'll say, Parnes, is I'll never forget. [08:00] moments with you, like where I've been next to you, where fun, weird things have happened. And a lot of people don't know that

[08:08] Carnsey used to do a great sketch, probably not, probably... [08:12] A sketch that probably wouldn't be able to happen today. Many, like many things. Well, it was a very gentle, nice guy called Merv the Perf. And he was, I loved him. And, but Merv would just kind of show up to parties. How would you describe Merv? Well, you know, the name came from Will, actually, because I was kind of doing a version of Merv at some party. And he's like, oh, Merv the Perf. [08:42] Coming on to him as being something weird. And that's where the title came. That's where the name came from. And Merv would just come up to ladies and, you know, just gently ask them if they'd like to party in his pants. And he'd have rip away, tear away pants. Like a nice perf. Well, I know, Parnsey, that Will's going to be so happy that we talked. I'm so happy to get to contribute a little bit. So, yeah. Thanks for asking. Of course. It's great to see you. Congrats on the new show. And great to see you. And I hope you're doing great. [09:12] I hope I see you soon. Bye. Okay, take care. [09:16] This episode is brought to you by Visible. Folks, it's officially summer. Whether you're planning summer travels or staying home to watch all the action in the villa, you need a wireless network that keeps you connected. And you don't have to splurge. With Visible, you get unlimited 5G data and unlimited hotspot, powered by Verizon for just $25 a month. So you can save and order some extra spritzes this summer. Visible is more than just a wireless plan.

[09:42] designed to always keep you connected, and there's no contract to tie you down. Switch today at Visible.com. Plans start at $25 a month or get the premium Visible Plus Pro plan and save $10 on your first month when you use promo code HANG. Terms apply. See Visible.com for plan features and network management details. [10:02] Hi. Hi. [10:06] I was very excited about you coming today. I was so excited to be here, to come here. How are you? [10:12] Is today a big press day for you? Do you have to go do a bunch of things now? We rolled this into, we're going up to Connecticut tomorrow. Nice. ESPN? No. What's up there? Traveler's Insurance Golf Tournament. Don't you know? Amy, come on. Well, we are going to talk about your new show, The Hawk, in which you play a golfer. And then we've been grabbing stuff for Lonnie's Instagram in character. [10:42] She walks around a lot and talks to people. Well, I was wondering if I was going to be interviewing Lonnie today. No, I love him too much. But you love to be in character. I do, but then sometimes, as you know... Sure. Sure. [10:56] With our comedy lives, you sometimes think of a really good idea and then it just makes you tired. But I got to say, of all the people that have to do ideas, you are probably and still remain one of the least tired. [11:09] I'm hanging in there. You are the least tired. Yeah. Because you love to work. Will, you have worked really hard since I've known you. Yes. Yes.

[11:20] I have. [11:21] You have. But some of it is smoke and mirrors. Sure. But like you're also out there plugging and you get a kind of a pleasure. We've talked about this. Yeah. About... [11:33] Doing kind of stupid stuff to promote. Like, you don't mind that. You kind of like it. It kind of relaxes you. You like to be embarrassed. And it's way better than. And I always remember what you said. You're like, what we do is embarrassing. Yes. But you don't ever seem embarrassed. Do you remember saying that? You're like, comedy is embarrassing. Well, I think I hopefully quoted Ted Danson because that was his quote. Okay. I hopefully gave him those props. [12:03] say something. And this is my quote and my quote only. [12:07] And I remember thinking, okay, what's the big deal? [12:10] But I want you to know, when you hear it, remember, I came up with it. I was like, fine, tell me what it is. [12:18] Comedy is embarrassing. What we do is embarrassing. I was like, okay, great. Oh, that's kind of interesting. Yeah. Yeah. But Ted Danson said it. He said it in terms of acting because we were, him and I were in a, we're doing a scene one time and somebody was acting and he, in such a sweet way, he's such a nice guy. He said, oh God, acting is embarrassing. And I said, it is. But you, you have a captain energy. Yeah. [12:44] that I love. And, you know, for me, when I started SNL, like you were the captain I watched, and you still are in many ways. I watch how you navigate your life and this work and everything. And you have a captain energy. I mean, I think some of it might just be because you're tall. I think a lot of it is. You're just like tallest guy in the room. Yeah. And they're like, what are you going to do? Well, why is everyone looking at me? Don't look at me. Yeah. And I

[13:14] being a good captain. Like, I feel like you have this thing where, you know, I've worked with you. I've got to work with you a lot where I watch you kind of be the number one on the set and you, you're, [13:27] Always professional, always working hard, but you're not taking things too seriously or yourself too seriously ever. No. [13:34] No, I look back. [13:37] And that was not intentional. Yeah. But I just remember that what was intentional was reminding everyone, and I'm referring to working on Saturday Night Live in that environment, reminding everyone that this is supposed to be fun. Yeah. This is a comedy show. We won the jackpot. It's a comedy show. That's right. [14:00] Let's have fun while we do it. That's right. And let's make each other laugh. Yes. And let's have moments where like... [14:07] No one's ever going to see. Right. It's just for us. Yes. It makes everybody feel so relaxed. And that was the thing that I watched when I. But you always seemed 100% relaxed. Well, I really did. I really did. I've told you this, but I really did watch, you know, our year overlapped. We only had one year together on the show, which is so weird. It's so weird. And was it the, was it? It was 2000 and. [14:35] 1. [14:36] One. A great year. Great year for comedy. Great year. People were ready to laugh. Great time to start a job in comedy. That's right. And it was like kind of coming into kind of coming into a school and seeing the cool senior and being like, oh, that senior is cool. Not only because they're talented, but they know how to like make people feel relaxed, keep people like doing bits, like reminding everybody that this is like life is a dream. And like, what are we doing? Like all that

[15:06] Like it was, it was really important. So, okay. I'm going to go back in time. Okay. [15:11] Get ready. So grab something just in case you faint. A little fake hamburger. You are you are you like you were like a popular kid. Best personality you got. I did. Congrats. Yes, I got best personality. I mean, that can be a real curse. It can be a curse. [15:41] Or girlfriends or anything like that. Okay. Girls were like, well, but I don't like you. They were like, oh my God, so funny. You're so funny. I've talked to him all day about my boyfriend. What? What a funny joke. [15:56] No. Okay. That makes me feel better. So you were, God is fair. So you were like crack crushing it on the personality, not on the ladies. What sports did you play in high school? [16:06] You name it, I played it. Shit. What was your best sport? What were you best at? Well, I was captain of the basketball team. Dang. [16:13] Captain. But I averaged 1.2 points a game. [16:18] Once again, not a joke. Okay. So you don't have a good shot? No, I just, I learned, I had a pretty good shot, but I learned I stayed in the game longer by playing defense, rebounding. Yeah. Setting screen, doing all the things that no one else wants to do. Fundamentals. Fundamentals. Team player. Very sexy. Captain. Very sexy. Very good at fundamentals. Yes. Yeah.

[16:43] Right, Captain Energy. But I went, you know, I played baseball. I was a kicker on the football team because I played a lot of soccer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I loved team sports. Yeah, and you, you know, your dad was working with the Righteous Brothers. Mm-hmm. [17:00] And I, [17:01] I'm the best thing about SNL is I get to know, you get to know everybody's parents. I've met your parents. So, so many times are so lovely. And yeah, [17:09] But you like kind of, I read somewhere that like you were like, I don't really know about this, this like idea of show business because it's just very. Very scary. Scary. Why did it seem scary at the time? Because I just saw the. [17:24] there was no stability in the life of a musician. [17:28] Yeah. And I would watch how, um, [17:32] And I would sit and watch my dad play going, this is the most talented person. [17:37] He was like... [17:39] like, [17:40] My hero, like so funny and great piano player. And like, who could be better than that? And so I never understood when he would have a nightclub gig that he'd come home and be like, well, I'm not going to be playing there. I'm like, oh, what? It's like nothing. They just decided. [17:59] going to make a change. So I've got to go out and I've got to look for the next gig. And it was very impressionable to me that that was, oh, that was rough. So I, I, I was, I was, [18:13] I was committed to having what I thought in my little kid brain was a real job. Which do you remember what you thought it was going to be? No, but I knew. But this is what I knew. These are the elements. You carry a briefcase. Absolutely.

[18:27] You carry a briefcase. Of course. You go into a building. Yes. It has to be inside a building. You go into a building and you have either a cubicle or you have an office. And you go. Yeah. [18:43] period of time. You talk to people, then you walk home with your briefcase. I didn't have a car in my little kid. Did you have, do you remember there used to be like punch cards? That was a big, like I used to play secretary when I was a kid. Clock in, clock out. And I used to go down to my dad's. I think I was still, I think I was executive level in my little kid brain. You opened up a leather binder of some sort, signed something. Yeah. So, yeah. So, so that was, [19:13] So how do you then jump from like, I'm going to have a safe job with a briefcase because you're you are you're playing sports. You're tall. You're a white, straight guy. Like those guys go into briefcase jobs. Right. Briefcase jobs. Then you're going to then how do you get to the groundlings? How do you decide to take classes? What do you think it was? It was crazy. [19:33] Death by a thousand cuts. I mean, it was literally just a little bit here, a little bit, because I wasn't, I didn't entertain people. [19:41] any sort of performance [19:44] No plays in high school? No plays in high school. And yet I remember our high school. [19:50] Had a really good drama department. Yeah. And I went with friends to go watch the show they were doing. And I forget what it was.

[19:57] But I remember watching going, this is good, and these kids are good, and that would be fun. Any comedy sneak out at all? Because I think sometimes it just like squirts out and you can't help it. Like, did you get up in front of the class? Were you funny? I did. I did. [20:13] The kind of thing that kind of opened, began the crack in the door. Open the comedy briefcase. Open the comedy briefcase. [20:27] one of those snakes that pops out at you. Right? Yeah. Hilarious. Yes. Hilarious. Um, [20:35] were [20:36] Uh, [20:37] assemblies, school assemblies. Yes. And a good buddy of mine, Bart, and I would write, basically, when I look back, they were sketches. Yeah. And we wrote these performance pieces. [20:52] for the assemblies. Oh yeah. And we would, we would imitate the teachers. We would do, we performed as the Schmange brothers from SCTV. No other kids knew who the Schmangees were, but I thought, Oh, I love when you guys do the Schmange doogles. How'd you make that up? I know we're copying it from SCTV. That was my first kind of, and we were also writing these morning [21:22] to sell senior class t-shirts. That was our big fundraiser. So these were like little radio skits. Yeah. And, um...

[21:32] Thank you. [21:33] And the defining moment for me when I look back was... [21:36] Sitting at home, I knew we had, we do it like every other Tuesday or something. [21:42] And one was due... [21:44] the next day and I'm, I have a mountain of homework and I'm sitting there. I spent three hours, I'm [21:52] crafting this little dumb paragraph. Yeah. [21:57] And I... [21:58] It was 11 o'clock and I'd started at eight and it felt like, [22:01] Thank you. [22:02] It felt like 10 minutes. Yeah, yeah. And even then as like a senior in ISO, I thought, hold on, hold on to this memory. Remember what this feels like. This does not feel like work. Did you have like... [22:13] job, like fun, dumb jobs that you were like, [22:18] doing while you were trying to figure out you were at USC, right? Like, were you... [22:23] I was, I parked cars. [22:27] I worked one day at Disneyland. [22:30] Did you get fired? No. Just quietly not asked back? No. No. I was too afraid. I had my friend John call and quit on my behalf, which was really funny. Pretend to be you? Yeah. For some reason, I was so embarrassed to call. I went... [22:52] So I got a job and you were paid for the orientation day. Oh yeah, sure. To work at Disneyland. And I thought... [23:00] that I was going to be assigned...

[23:03] to be one of the really fun jobs, like the jungle cruise operator. And I find out, oh no, those guys work there for eight years before they get. So they assign me one of the front [23:17] kiosks for selling tickets. Yeah. At the same time, I had a rival offer to work at a friend's surf shop, a friend who was managing a surf shop right down at Newport Beach. Exactly. Same pay. Yeah. [23:30] $5.50 an hour. Yeah. But I was too embarrassed to call up Disneyland. So my friend John called on my behalf and said, I will be quitting after one day. And they asked, okay, a reason for leaving? And he said, I have a tryout with the Dallas Cowboys. And they went, thank you very much. So somewhere there's a file at Disney Corporate. [24:00] Believe me, try out with the Dallas Cowboys football team. And they probably were like, they probably thought for a second they remembered you and they were like, huh, what position? And someone was like, he's a kicker. And I'm like, oh, that makes sense. Maybe a kicker. Did he make the Cowboys? You want to hear an interesting story? We just had someone call and cancel. They're not going to work. They're going to try out for the Dallas Cowboys. How good is that? Anyway, I wish them the best. Waiter ever? No. Never waiter. I knew. You knew? I knew. [24:30] Groundlings, what year was that? Do you remember what year it was? That was right after...

[24:34] I graduated from USC. What was your degree? In sports information. So that was the trying to bridge the gap between... [24:44] real job and entertainment. So as I'm [24:48] As I'm coming in college, like you said, it's oozing out of me in places. I still didn't join a college improv team. I still didn't audition for anything. It was more kind of what we were talking about. [25:07] Getting out, doing bits. Yeah. Trying to make my friends laugh, pretending to be other people that I wasn't in order to make. So I would show up to a friend's class as a friend. [25:22] I found like some overalls and I would interrupt this friend's class as a maintenance worker and pretend to fix things or just come up, come in with like a lit cigarette out of my mouth and like a puke bucket. And the teacher would be like, can I help you? [25:44] And I'd look at him and just go, no one threw up in here. [25:49] And he would say, no, I'm sorry. [25:52] They called me from physical plant and I said, this is classroom B302, right? Yeah. I'm sorry about that. But like blowing smoke in his classroom. But like my heart is pounding in my chest. But it's finding it's thrilling. And I'm only making three people laugh. That to me is like free solo of comedy. It's like rock climbing where you're like doing it just kind of for yourself.

[26:22] one's watching. Totally. It's pretty, it feels quite dangerous because everyone's like, what are you doing in here? And I would have, I would have, I worked, my work study job was at the humanities audio visual department. So occasionally I may have to push an over overhead projector across campus. And I would tell my buddy like, Hey, when are you guys all going to sit in the commons area? [26:47] I may be pushing an overhead projector at around 1230. He's like, okay, good. And he, my friend Emil became my shill and I would, [26:57] time it, I do a circuitous route. [27:00] nowhere near where I needed to go. And I would just [27:03] Pull my just enough to have my butt crack show and just slowly push. And my friend, he won't be like, look at that guy. What an idiot. And people like he would get the crowd to go. Yeah. And and people who didn't know me would would laugh in a mean way. Yeah. Once again, I found it thrilling. Thrilling. Thrilling. [27:27] that these people had no idea that it was all... [27:30] It was all actually jokes on them. It makes sense to me because jokes on them. Jokes on them. Oh, you're the idiot. Oh, I walked around campus with my pants down. Oh, no, no. I knew my pants were down. [27:41] I knew it. I knew it. I pulled them down myself. [27:45] But it makes sense because people, when people, what people love about you, Will, is it does feel like you're trying to make your friends laugh. Like, that's really what it feels like. It feels like, and they feel parasocially like your friends. Like, they're like, Will is my friend.

[28:00] And he makes me laugh. Like, I've been with you and people come up to you and people, you invoke this like feeling of people where they're like, it's almost like, Will, I knew I was going to see you. You're my friend. You know, people feel really connected. And it is. And then they're let down when I'm not doing the bits. Well, I mean, there's nothing but a letdown. Oh, yeah. You've experienced many, right? Oh, wow. You're quiet. Yeah. Not telling jokes. You're so normal. [28:28] Oh. [28:29] What am I going to do with that? [28:31] Yeah. Like, oh, are you sad today? It's like, no, I'm just, this is my normal. I'm not screaming. My shirt is on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When you got to Groundlings, who were your peeps there? What was your class? Who were, who were, who was studying when you were there? [28:48] Who, let's see, um... [28:52] My direct peeps kind of [28:55] coming up in the same at the same time through the school were, uh, [29:01] Catan. Yeah. And Sherry. Mm-hmm. And I believe a little overlap with Chris Parnell. Mm-hmm. [29:11] Um, [29:13] Oh, Jennifer Coolidge was kind of she she was actually ahead of us, but and did some shows with us as well. And then. [29:24] So many of you started at SNL. [29:27] Around the same time or at the same time you and Jerry came in together. Yeah. And. And then I'd known Molly. Right. From.

[29:37] Molly sweetly. [29:40] I was with Molly yesterday. I just saw her. She got the Hollywood Walk of Fame star. Her star in the Walk of Fame. So cool. And... [29:48] Of course, Molly gave... [29:49] the greatest speech of all time. Yeah. Of just stream of... [29:54] consciousness, you know, but told the story of how, and I met Will, I was working at the Melrose Baking Company and Will, I met, I was with my, my friend Patricia brought Will in and said, this is Will. And you said, hi. And like, what can I get you? And you said, I will have a scone. Molly delivering that story, it like thunderous lap. Like that written down on a piece of paper [30:24] I love what you said about her. What did you say about her and like how her character felt like it was the beginning of a new chapter? I just I just remember it was it was this moment. [30:38] When she first did Mary Catherine Gallagher, it was our fourth show that we'd ever done for that new cast of the 95, 96 season. And, you know, very much finding our sea legs, very much. [30:55] We're all pretty brand new. It was eight new cast members and an entire new writing staff. Um, and so, um, [31:03] The audience is... [31:05] Very leery. And, um,

[31:09] And it was that first moment that, [31:12] She starts doing the character and I'm at the beginning of the sketch, but I have to run. This is during dress rehearsal. I have to run to go underneath the paint cans there, which is a section of the studio where you're underneath the bleachers there. And I'm doing a quick change for the next thing. And she starts doing Mary Catherine for the first time. And I can feel... [31:34] the stands shake. The audience is howling and screaming with laughter to the point where [31:44] it almost, it felt emotional. It felt like, wait, a somatic thing was happening. Like there was a rumble in your stomach. 100%. Yeah. And I literally, as I thought about things to talk about, [32:00] And Molly, in terms of knowing, I thought, oh, that she kind of saved the show in a way. It was that first thing for this new group where people were like, oh, [32:09] Oh, my God, that character is amazing. [32:13] very real and funny and an outsider and dark. Yeah. Yeah. [32:19] Yes, and super physical. And she throws herself into a stack of metal folding chairs with no visible padding on her at all. It was like punk rock version of Lucille Ball. Yeah, yeah. [32:34] for a woman, you know, in comedy, like, like, it was like a busting through the door, I think, in a way. And I just remember thinking, okay, they, they like, I think,

[32:47] And it just created this momentum from that point on. You know, if anything, the show is like so cyclical. We've learned that like it's been said a million times, like when somebody leaves the show, it'll never be the same. It's been on for 50 years. It's like this cast is better than that cast or whatever. And I you guys got bad reviews. Like the show is like Saturday Night Dead. Yeah. [33:10] Do you remember any of the band reviews? I think Sherry was the only one who got good reviews. Sherry got a good... Yeah. Do you remember... Sherry had a great first show. Sherry was... I mean, Sherry was an amazing performer as well. [33:22] Yeah, I was my first show. I mean, I got, you know, it was it once again, I think it's part of. [33:30] Another piece that informed the way I approach all of this because it was... [33:36] It was like, good news and bad news. [33:40] You're one of the only cast members mentioned by name. Oh, that's pretty. It's got to be good. Here's the bad news. Most annoying newcomer right out of the gate from the first show. You don't have to say their name, but do you remember the writer's name? No. Okay. That's where you and I are different because I would like. No, I don't remember that. But I remember it was one of those, one of those entertainment magazines that doesn't exist anymore. Yeah. [34:06] It was like Entertainment Weekly, but not entertainment. Maybe it was Entertainment Mag. Remember that used to be... Or like Premiere or like something like that. Yes, it was something like that. And they were like... They were coming for you. They were really not happy. And so, as we all know, we've all been hit with these moments where you're thinking...

[34:25] Okay, do I just sit and wallow in this? And I don't know what it is about my DNA, but I just started cracking up going, you asked for it, buddy. Yeah. So then I just, back to sports, I just made it, I literally taped it to my wall. Yes. Most annoying newcomer. But this is what a captain does. And then the only thing I know how to do is... [34:50] I'm like... [34:51] I'm just going to lean into it anymore, even more. Like if you think I'm annoying now, just wait. I'm going to push that overhead projector across your face, you know? Right. And so it just kind of fired me up. Yes. But there was no part of me that was like, what am I doing wrong? Oh, I better change things up. I don't have that move. People have very, very strong opinions about comedy. Yep. Same with music. They're very similar. Just like, I love that song. I hate that song. I love that singer. I hate their voice. [35:21] really, um, like they own their, their feelings about things. I'm just envisioning you really pouring over and circling someone's name. There is a couple of reviews there. I got two reviews that I like, I, I think like I whispered their names in my pillow every night, like Aria Stark. Like I think about these two people and I'm just like, someday we're going to see each [35:51] There used to be a writer for the LA Times. Kay Farrell would remember her name. Oh, Kay's got it written down. Will's mom. She had it so out for me that I saw...

[36:08] I opened up the LA times to see a review of 40 year old virgin. Sure. And I remember on Acre, man, Correll talking about that premise and we're all going, [36:19] Buddy, that is hilarious. He's like, yeah, I may try to see if I can get this going. Anyway. [36:25] I see this. I'm like, oh, I want to see what they think of Steve. [36:31] The first two paragraphs are how this woman hates me. Hates. There's no one. Yes. Goes off on Will Ferrell. Two solid paragraphs. [36:45] Oh, delicious. Of how there's no one worse than him. He is unfunny. There's no, there's nothing redeemable about anything he does. That was, that's the top of the article. [37:01] watched Steve Carell in 4-year-old, I was so pleasantly surprised that, [37:08] It's like, what do I have to do with, I guess because he was an anchor man or. Oh, sure. She was like, she was like, no, this is the kind of guy that I laugh at. Not this stupid idiot. I, it was like a hot, it was like opening. Like, it was like being in Las Vegas in your air conditioning room and you open up to a blast furnace of 110 degree heat. It's like, that serves you. For going looking.

[37:38] I mean, it wanted me to get. [37:43] I know what it feeds you. I wanted to wear a T-shirt of her name and just be photographed walking around town. Yeah, I love that. That is, I think, something that you and I share, which is just like there's a little bit of a tingle of like, it must be the challenger in us, but like some kind of like where it's like, oh. [38:02] Because it's kind of, it's this thrilling thing where you realize like, I'm going to survive this. I can't explain it other than like, the worst has happened. Somebody doesn't like me and it's like going to be like, I don't know. There's something, there's a mischievous quality about it that's fun. Yeah. [38:21] And you don't, you just can't internalize it. Like, what are you going to do? [38:32] This is the end of Western civilization. And he went as far as to say, do not buy this on DVD when it comes out. Do not support movies like this because it will make other people think they should make movies similar to this. So please. It was a it was like a call to action. Yeah. [38:51] and incredible oh god you're okay oh that is so delicious only because we've gotten enough filled up on the love side that we could handle yeah the hate yeah

[39:10] Introducing Taco Bell's new jalapeno citrus salsa with bright citrus, real red jalapenos, guajillo chiles. Usually, you add sauce to the food, but when the sauce is this good, the food is just there to get the sauce to your mouth. That rolled quesadilla, not a rolled quesadilla anymore. Now it's a sauce shovel. Taco Bell's jalapeno citrus salsa. Get it with any item on the Cantina Chicken Menu while it's here. The participating U.S. Taco Bell locations for a limited time only. While supplies last, contact store for availability. [39:39] you [39:41] When you speak about Molly saving the show, I'm going to say, [39:46] I felt the same way about you in 2001. Like I felt like we were, I was starting, you know, we joked about it earlier, but I was starting at a time when it was like New York was hurting. Comedy was over. People were like, we can't joke anymore. We can't do, we can't do. Yeah. It was post your book. Like you had done Bush. We couldn't do any jokes. No. You know, poor Forte had to play Bush during those years. And it was like, what do we do? [40:11] No one could kid about anything other than maybe pop culture. And even that everyone was like, not now. [40:16] Right. We're too sad. Yeah. And so. Understandable. I remember when you came out in patriotic underwear. Speedo. Speedo underwear. Dolphin shorts. Dolphin running shorts. Okay. [40:30] tight shorts pulled way up and you had just for air not for dress [40:35] Dress, I kept them low. Live show. Don't peek at dress, as Tracy Morgan likes to say. Don't peek at dress. So you hiked them for air. Hiked them for air. And I also remember that you would just run, because you're a runner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You would just run like a half marathon or something. The New York marathon. Oh, okay. So you'd run the New York marathon. So you also were very chafed. Yes. You were really chafed. I forgot that part. Yeah. And you were like, I'm very chafed.

[41:02] Super chafed. [41:05] Patriot is a guy who's trying to be patriotic at his office. And same thing, Will. I remember the audience laughing and being like, oh, we're going to be okay. Okay, comedy is going to be okay. This show is going to survive. I'm going to still have a job. I forgot about the chafing. You were chafed from running. Okay, I want to talk about... [41:25] Some people, [41:26] stuff that you've done. I'm so bad at transition. By the way, did you see how clunky that was? That was rough. I said, okay, stop. Okay, stop. But you know what? I think that is... [41:42] a great transition. It's super clear. I said, okay, stop. Okay, stop. Okay. I want to talk about something else. Turn this page. Amy, let me, I'm going to help muddle this transition too. Please. I was thinking about your time and how then you were, you became such a star yourself, but I'm not, I'm not trying to, [42:07] I'm not trying to kiss butt. [42:09] This is a scientific analysis. Okay. But... [42:13] Then you and Tina go on to do updates. [42:17] And to bring that like so far forward. And, and, but I was saying, God, Amy had to run around and do sketches and then do update. [42:27] Yeah. You know what? It felt, it was so, um, I say very loose because I was always, you know, like nothing worse than having one line. Yep. Nothing worse. You didn't have to think about up because you're like. Totally. I would just be. Oh, here comes this fun. This is fun break right here. Totally. Wow.

[42:47] because I always knew I had to update. And so I felt like very, very like getting eventually to the looseness that I wanted. Maya and I talk about it. Like we wanted like senioritis, that feeling of like half in, half out, like this is a dumb thing, this is a fun thing. But it's so hard to get there. And then you leave SNL and then we'll – [43:06] You have the biggest string of comedy hits, like hit after hit, like suit lander, like elf, old school, anchorman, step brothers, hell of a dick. And it's like, like. [43:17] First of all, I can't even, I should have done the research. Yeah. [43:21] Like, how many years did you... Like, it seems like that was all done in, like, 10 or 15 years. A movie a year, at least. Right. So many hits. But some pauses in between. Sure. Yeah. But just, you are the... [43:36] For so many people, especially millennials, I would say, and maybe some Gen X, you are the face of their, like, five favorite comedy movies. And you've been in some good comedy movies. And we know that's hard. Movies are hard. Good movies are hard. Good comedies are hard. Way harder than a drama, which is easy. Yeah. Dramas are easy. What are you going to do? [44:02] I'm looking at all three, all five cameras. [44:06] Is there one up here? Like, you yell, they cry, like, whatever. [44:12] But... [44:13] I want to ask you about the ending. By the way, I don't know what your question is, and I don't have the answer. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. It's such a run. Because. Such a run.

[44:26] I leave the show... [44:28] with [44:29] No job? No job. [44:32] The only thing... [44:34] Zoolander maybe? [44:35] Had already come out. Oh, right. It had come out while you were there. That's right. And if you recall, it came out during 2001. [44:44] Yep. Tough time for comedy. And didn't find its audience until much later. Yeah. [44:51] Thank you. [44:51] I had been in [44:54] Uh, that last year, second, I filmed, you know, that last year I was leaving cause I was filming old school, old school. That's right. You were going back and forth. So old school, but old school had been held on to. [45:06] which is not [45:07] usually a positive endorsement from the studio. They're like, they're like, this is great. Hold on. This is so good. [45:14] Let's keep it on the back burner. It's too good. [45:21] No, it went from like a November release to like February of the next year. [45:28] And the only other thing that was big time development was Elf. [45:33] I mean, Elf is such a good movie. So we didn't even know... [45:39] Thank you. [45:40] And then, yeah. Well, let's talk about Elle for one second. Okay. Okay. [45:43] I mean, it is a lot of people's comfort movie. It is definitely their favorite Christmas movie. It's so fucking funny. It holds up so well. Yeah, thank you. Directed by Jon Favreau, who is like a Chicago improv guy that I came up with. And it's so, what do you think? And it was interesting because Jon really wanted to make sure it had a timeless feel to it. And Jon really wanted to, and was 100% right.

[46:13] I'm coming off of SNL. I'm known... Yes, there was like... [46:19] the cheerleaders and sketches like that, but I'm also known for a PG 13, [46:25] pushing our brand of humor, uh, [46:29] And, [46:31] I'm sitting in my... [46:33] trailer in my elf tights looking in the mirror. [46:39] Going. [46:41] Thank you. [46:41] What have you done? [46:44] I'm dressed as Buddy. And I mean, this is early movie deals. I'm in the double, I'm in the double bagger. I was going to say, I picture you really crowding this trailer. I'm in the space heater that's still built into the wall. And it's, we shoot the New York stuff first. So I don't even know if I know who this character is yet. And I'm running around, I'm walking around in yellow tights. And I'm like, oh my God. [47:09] What? This could be it. This could be it. This could be like, what? That guy was so funny. And then he made this movie. [47:17] We played a giant elf. Oh, poor. Oh, that's why that's why it's so embarrassing. It's like it could be like he's a genius, classic Christmas movie forever. Or so tights were the thing that killed. But I remember going, this is either going to be a home run or it's going to be a complete strikeout. Yeah, it's a very good example, too, of what you do so well, which is like the big and little of it all. Like you play big, but you're little or you're like, you've got no power, but

[47:47] which you do in all your movies. Like Anchorman is a perfect example of that. Like one of many things you made with McKay, which is just like this... [47:54] deeply stupid, hilarious person who is disconnected to the world, but yet in charge, and who is really, really mentally, mentally challenged. For problems. Really has a hard time with life. And it just gets worse, not better. Right. Never changes. And all you guys did was just go for all of the funny and have the funniest people in it. [48:24] him in that movie and how he was just... [48:28] blown away by watching you work and, [48:32] being around all you guys and like, and, and, [48:35] Every single character in that movie is Koechner and Rudd are so funny. Yeah. You love playing Ron. Like you, you, you love doing him, right? What's fun about him? I still will try to, well, we did a podcast with him, which was so fun. Just because Ron can say whatever he wants. Yeah. And he doesn't have to have the right facts. [48:59] He doesn't have to. In fact, I just did Ron recently. [49:04] Down in San Diego, because Bill Curtis... [49:08] Longtime Chicago narrates the movie. Yeah. It was retiring from Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Yeah. And...

[49:17] I had gotten a, uh, email just asking what I sent a video and to congratulate Bill and, uh, [49:26] And he's so proud of his connection to that movie. And he still has a standee in his house of Ronf. [49:34] And he's the sweetest guy. And I said, well, hold on. Where are you doing the show? He was like, we're doing it live down in San Diego. I'm like, what if I come and surprise him? And so they were like, would you actually? I'm like, yeah, we owe him so much. And so we surprised the audience. Oh, that's huge. It's also such a good name, Brown Burgundy. And also great that his suit was burgundy. Yes. You know, costumes are so fun. You love them. [50:02] good costume yeah yeah yeah you do but ron had other costumes he did he had other suits he didn't just have the one he wasn't that crazy no but when you think about ron you think about him in his burgundy suit but he had some delightful tans i mean he was he was had like a fisherman turtleneck he had a baby blue yeah like a gorgeous blue suit that would bring out his eyes he was he was a very [50:32] We did two movies together. We did Blades of Glory, which was so fun. And you had to learn how to ice skate? I had to learn... [50:40] Or did you know a little bit? I had to learn. But you didn't love it, if I recall. I talked about it with Greta Lee on this pod a few weeks ago. You didn't love it.

[50:50] I didn't love it. [50:53] I wasn't... [50:55] I, I think I thought, you know, like you sit down at the piano and you think you're going to be able to play the piano. Like I thought I'd be better at it. And I was like, fuck, I'm not. I remember us meeting the real, you know, performers and just being like, we're never ever going to look like we can do this. And you look of all your movies, you look the tallest in Blades of Glory. [51:18] You look so tall. Do you ice skate still? No. [51:21] No, I need to. Yeah, I'm too nervous. I let it. I let it. [51:25] I have the skates packed away somewhere. [51:28] They were custom-made skates. Yeah. [51:30] You insisted on it. I have my costume. You do? Framed. You do? Yeah. But Viv... Will's wife. Yeah, sorry. It's hanging in the garage. You won't let it come into the house. [51:44] She's like, I don't want it. I don't need it. I don't need it in the house. I don't not like it, but it's going to hang in the garage. [51:53] And then we did The House together. Yes. Which was so fun to do with you. It was a dream come true to make a movie with you. [52:00] Did not really resonate. Did not resonate at all. Flop. But yet... Kind of a flop. I still argue that movie's funny. My kids often... [52:11] tell me that that like they're like mom that was seven percent on rotten tomatoes oh i didn't realize it was that and i was like no way seven percent have they seen it's it's gone up i just want you to know okay i just checked today 14 20 percent triple we did it we did it but that was a

[52:41] I flopped you. You spoke about Vivica. Vivica, your wife of now 25 years, probably? 25, going on 26. Damn. Such a formidable, cool, smart, interesting person. Such a perfect match for you, Will. Oh, yeah. And Swedish. Swedish. And that's what we have in common. My brother lives in Sweden. What... [53:05] Are the stereotypes of Swedish people that are correct? I think the stereotype that Swedes aren't funny is not true. Agreed. They are very sly, dry sense of humor. Yes. Uh, [53:18] And as you know very well, and your brother knows, can also be the... [53:25] unintentionally direct. Yeah. [53:28] Very direct. I think intentionally. Intentionally. Yeah. But they don't. But it's just... [53:33] Um, it's just a matter of fact. No, I'm just telling you. No, you look, you got fats. Yeah. You know, you were skinny. Now you're fat. Someone, someone is very tired. [53:44] You look tired. Well, I don't think he would do well because he's ugly. [53:51] What? He's ugly. Or the polite version is like, they are a little bit ugly. They are a little... You're right. That's the polite version. He's a little bit ugly. My best story, this was... [54:06] when we were first [54:08] Thank you. [54:08] taking trips there, [54:10] I didn't have a lot of Swedish under my belt, but I had some nouns, you know. And we were on one of these little tour buses, or it was a boat. It was a boat out to the archipelago, and they had like a...

[54:26] you know, one of these outside decks and, you know, [54:30] Thank you. [54:30] I saw this group of tourists and they were... [54:33] looking and pointing. And then they sent a scout. You could tell they sent a scout to go check to see if [54:42] if it was really me. And so I say to Viv and we were with her cousin, [54:47] Eva and I was like, let's start. We should start speaking Swedish. I want to see. And so they started speaking and I just started going, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. So, oh. [54:59] Shikling. [55:01] which is just chicken. [55:04] Yo. Oh, skur. [55:07] which is shoes. I'm just saying nouns. I'm just like, you know, chicken, yeah, shoes, yeah, hat, hmm, oh, brah, which is good. And I just would say these words. And he did this lap. And it was kind of, it was really fantastic bad movie acting. Did this lap where he did a slow [55:37] Then he looked back at the group and he just went, [55:40] Thank you. [55:41] not him not him so i was like so good i mean you could be sweet you look swedish will which the the b side of that yeah is swedes listening to someone just go chicken shoe shirt good and they'd be like he's stupid he's he's obviously stupid they took him out for the

[56:11] It's really annoying about the Swedes. Yeah. And I'm sure Greg has encountered this, but the men were, [56:17] All can either are gourmet cooks, can build a table. They're insane. Can repair the tire on your car. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, the dishwasher is broke. Let us take a look. Well, the Floman valve is not working. Yes. And take it apart. Yes. Put it. Uran can fix it. They can do everything. Yes. They can do everything. They can do everything. And they're so tall and buff and they're very, and also home a lot. Yeah. [56:47] They're just like, they're pretty, yeah. And like, I sewed the button back on my shirt. I'm like, I can't sew a button. I should be able to, I'm 58. I should know how to sew a button. You would think? Yeah. Right? Yeah. Yeah. [57:03] But they're like, Matthias, we'll do it for you. [57:06] Let us do it. Let us do it. Or if you start to do it, they're also very precise. So if you start to, oh, I'll do it. Let me do it. I don't want you to wreck it. That's okay. I'll do it. Code for it. You're going to break it. Let me do it. And then the last thing, well, last few things before we get to the hawk. [57:33] It was such a beautiful, beautiful film, Will. Like, congrats on its success, on how it was received. Do you have people coming up to you still talking to you about it? Still to this day. What do they say when they... Just the gift that keeps on giving. Just...

[57:48] just thank you. And what a, you know, [57:54] I love it. What a beautiful, but we've, we've gotten stories that have ranged from, we watched with our trans people. [58:03] child. And it was the first time we talked about as a family, we, um, it, it, it's just run the gamut. And, um, [58:12] uh, [58:13] And it might have been the most... [58:17] Once again, like, [58:19] surprising in the sense that we didn't know what [58:23] we were going to make or have. I mean, it's a documentary. Yeah. [58:29] But to have this thing where we literally... [58:32] got to the beach at Santa Monica and [58:37] Josh yelled cut and we were like, [58:39] Oh my God, that was so much fun, but I don't think there's a movie there. We both said that. And then the first time we watched it, [58:46] And we're like, how did you do that? This is... [58:49] how did you build a narrative structure out of this whole thing to then from the festivals and the press? It was everything was just like the most fun year. Yeah. Yeah. And I love to hear that. That's awesome. Yeah. [59:02] the coolest thing ever. And, you know, Harper and I worked together at SNL and, you know, not only was it exactly, like, was it exactly about that, about like somebody's journey and, but it's just the journey of friendship. Like how, how do we allow people to change? How do we allow them to get more of themselves? What is so beautiful about the film is it like, doesn't shy away from that middle, um,

[59:31] Middle space. Yeah. That allows not only Harper to talk about how she's feeling, but for you, like that middle space is all, is kind of like treacherous. For sure. People get very afraid to stay there. They want to get on one side of the pool and they don't want to get it wrong. Right. And also same with Harper, like Harper's like figuring out like, where is she in this world in this space? And the fact that you guys just kind of settled in there, it's such good storytelling. Because she gave permission. She was like, let's. [1:00:00] with it. [1:00:01] You're going to make, ask me whatever. I'm going to make mistakes. You're going to make like, okay, okay. Are you sure? Okay. What about this? You know, and what a kind of wonderful piece about just friendship and just being an advocate for anyone who's going through anything. Totally. And that was kind of a... [1:00:18] the universal takeaway as well. And you team up with Harper again on The Hawk. The Hawk. [1:00:26] Which is the name of your character, Lonnie Hawkins. Lonnie the Hawk. Okay. Incredible. You have an incredible look in this show. Incredible. Always a little sunburned. [1:00:39] Always. Got a little golf tan. Golf tan. The great Autumn Butler doing your makeup for that. Autumn Butler craft, autumn pitch. Like what if Lonnie... [1:00:50] what if Lonnie had a little tan line? Like, and we carry it the whole... [1:00:56] series. Perfect. [1:00:58] And I said, done and done. And Parnsey is in the show, right? Yes. Well, we talked to Parnell. Okay. Yeah, we did. We talked to him before this, before we started, because we always try to talk well behind someone's back and we try to get a question. And before we get to his question, let's talk about Parnell for a second. What a, like, what a laser focused performer. Yes. So funny.

[1:01:28] and you guys have worked together on many things for a long time and shared an office at SNL. Chris Parnell, comedically, yeah, he's so precise. [1:01:36] He nails... [1:01:38] Every performance, every nuance, everything, you give them a note. [1:01:44] Um, [1:01:45] And he just executes everything in such a funny way. And he's a really good actor. Yes, really good actor. And... [1:01:53] is so funny in this because he just plays wonderfully uptight and gets so mad. [1:02:01] throughout. [1:02:02] We have him screeching at times, literally screeching. Jerry Collins is writing on the show too. Oh, nice. Your third roommate. And we were reminiscing how we had, we shared, the three of us shared an office at SNL and for a good half of the season committed, I don't know if you remember this, committed to wearing short sleeve button down white shirts and dark tie. We dressed as NASA. Yeah. [1:02:25] Mission Control guys. Do you remember that? Every writing Tuesday we would wear. I was ahead of my time, I think. Oh, you weren't there yet. I don't think I was there yet. That's right. Yeah, I missed the fun. It was Jerry's idea. Should we, every Tuesday night on the writing night, should we wear short-sleeved button-down shirts with black ties like we work for NASA? Yes, let's do that. [1:02:47] Okay, but his question to you was, who were your comedy idols growing up? [1:02:55] the tonight show and I would, if there was a comedian on, I would stay and watch the rest. If there wasn't, I'd.

[1:03:02] So I, that's where I would see Jerry Seinfeld for the first time. Uh, that's where, you know, [1:03:09] Richard Pryor, uh, [1:03:12] uh, you name it. That was, you know, before cable, that's, that was one of the few outlets to get to see comedy. So I just kind of, and then I loved, uh, [1:03:22] I love those late 70s, early 80s sitcoms like Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley. [1:03:29] All of that stuff, I'm watching these actors be so funny, but then it felt real. And how are they doing that? [1:03:40] Like. [1:03:41] Andy Kaufman and taxi, uh, [1:03:44] So, [1:03:46] It's... [1:03:47] I didn't have that one person that... [1:03:50] I could put on a poster in my room. Yeah. Bob Newhart. Yeah. Who you worked with in Elf. Yeah. Well, you bring up the fact that when we grew up, TV was kind of the only place. Like, I didn't go to the theater. Yeah. It was the only place to kind of find out or some, like, comedy records. And now, I mean, you have been, like, you've been on the front line of a lot of, like, new media. You know, you're, like, funny or die. And you, like, have – [1:04:15] Big Money Players, which is a huge network of great podcasts, including Les Culturistas, which we love here. You've kind of like, in our lifetime, the way people... [1:04:31] Yeah. Watch things and find people is so different than waiting for the one TV show at 1130 at night. Yeah. What do you get out of producing? I mean, you're always trying to encourage young, fresh voices, new POVs. You're always doing that. What do you like? I think it's probably the same thing.

[1:04:50] thing that you've probably gotten out of it. Just being able to lend some currency to someone who, you know, has a fresh voice or you're just like, yeah, give them a shot. Yeah. Why not? You just, cause I think you like, I mean, it's been said about you, but you love to laugh. Like you're really, you really want to laugh. And I remember that when, um, [1:05:14] Jerry Seinfeld came to host SNL. He laughed so hard and [1:05:19] at every sketch. I was like, Jerry, do you really, you're like the most generous person [1:05:25] host I've ever seen. He's like, he's like, [1:05:28] I just love comedy. [1:05:30] And that was a slight Jerry Seinfeld. It was a light dusting. Yeah. If you want more, you've got to pay through the paywall. Go to the paywall. Go to the Good Hang paywall, and you'll hear full Seinfeld. Hair, makeup, everything. But you don't get this for free. It's going to blow you away. Yeah. [1:05:48] That was just a little dash. I do regret. [1:05:52] Regret that little dash of Jerry Seinfeld. But keep it in. Keep it in. It was just a tiny dash. It was so slight. It was so slight. Because he can't help it. Because how do you talk about it when I'm talking like this? But I do remember... [1:06:08] Going, yeah, what? We should all laugh at each other. I mean, if we think it's funny. Yeah. We should all laugh. Or if it's not. Also, sometimes if it's not funny, it's the best thing in the world. And I'll finish with this, which is one of my favorite things ever was at SNL. We would look at sketches that bombed. And my most favorite sketch I've ever watched that bombed is your Gabe Kaplan sketch, which we've talked about. And for people under the age of 50, there was a gentleman named Gabe Kaplan on a show called Welcome Back, Cotter.

[1:06:38] 70s sitcom that I loved. 70s sitcom, and he was huge. He would be like, what would he be like now? It would be like. It was almost like equivalent of like a Larry David maybe in a way. Yeah, sure. If he was the teacher in a classroom with all these. Yep. A young John Travolta. Yes, young John Travolta. Incredible. Anyway, Will does a sketch where he plays a guy. Oh, and he has a very distinct look. Right. His look is like a very 70s. Very 70s. Big mustache. [1:07:08] curly hair, curly hair, sideburns. And Will did a sketch that went into the SNL archives that we used to pull up not only because, and this is going right back to the beginning, Will, because watching the captain fail is, makes you feel a lot better about yourself. But also the way in which everyone dug in deeper, the worse the sketch was going to me is like, that's true love. But Will [1:07:38] Premises that I am a guy who works at an office. I think we made it an insurance company that, um, [1:07:46] Gabe Kaplan, the actor, is a client of. Okay. [1:07:52] I look just like Gabe. I've cultivated. I'm such a fan of Gabe Kaplan. I've cultivated my look to look just like him. Right. And the sketch is that it's in the break room. And it's the day that Gabe Kaplan actually came into the office to sign some paperwork. And they're talking about how nice it's John Goodman. It's Molly. It's Tim. John Goodman, Tim Meadows and Molly. They're talking about what a nice guy. He was so cool. He was so funny. I'm like, I'm like, are you guys talking about? Oh, Gabe Kaplan was here.

[1:08:22] I was like, what? Yeah. [1:08:26] Why didn't you guys come and get me? Like, what do you mean? Like, you guys, I... [1:08:30] That's the reason why I'm working at this company. And I lose it. And he starts to lose it. And there is not one laugh. I mean, there's not even a cough. No, there's the smallest laugh in the world, though, way up in the corner. You're at one point. So the audience, number one, you're screwed. They don't know who Gabe Kaplan is. They don't appreciate that you're dressed just like him. [1:08:53] And they don't understand why you're mad. They don't understand why I'm mad. And I'm... The whole... [1:08:58] And the thrust of the sketch is built off my tirade of why didn't anyone, I was in the bathroom. Why didn't anyone check the bathroom? Did you not think, they're like, relax. We didn't think to check the bathroom. Like, why wouldn't you? You know how much he means. I wanted to meet him. What happens is Molly and you and Tim Meadows play it like a drama. Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf or something. You play it like who's afraid of Virginia Woolf. And Molly's going, I'm sorry I didn't tell you. And you're going, how could you do this to me? [1:09:28] And it is the funniest and a lesson in commitment, but it's such a good example of how, you [1:09:35] Everyone is one thing away from bombing all the time. That's no matter who you are. Like the bombing is so delicious. As I finish anything right now that you're like, do you watch comedy? Are you like, do you, is there anything you're watching right now that you love? No. I know.

[1:09:57] I ask this because I'm always looking. I'm always looking. I was trying to come up with something clever. [1:10:04] I mean, right now I'm watching all the World Cup. Okay. I'm really into it. It's very exciting. We went to one of the games out in L.A. Okay. So fun. I also love when the best players play great. It's like Messi is just playing so great. Mbappe. Mbappe. That's just fun to say. Yeah. Mbappe. Mbappe. The M is not silent. It's not silent. No, no. You lean into it. Mbappe. Mbappe. [1:10:34] in the M. Yeah. Will Ferrell. [1:10:37] I... [1:10:38] I think we did it. We so did it. I really do think we did it. We talked for a long time. We really did. Yeah. And, um, [1:10:47] Are these real plants? [1:10:48] These are fake plants, fake food. Gotcha. [1:10:52] Fake plants, fake food. I didn't want the codependent responsibility of keeping these alive. Yeah, that's fine. The compliment is it looked real out of the side of my eye. That's the compliment. And I was like, oh, that's not real. So that's a compliment. You just want to be able to side it. Side eye. Is there any food over there that looks real? Side eye reality. That hamburger with the sesame seed buns. Okay, let's take a look at that before we go. The sesame seed drew my eye. [1:11:17] So this is your typical... Take a look at that if you want to feel it. Is that a dog toy? Oh, no. It's got a good weight to it. And does it come apart? [1:11:27] It's a, well, is that

[1:11:29] Nope. No, it doesn't. It's all glued together. It's a cheeseburger, like a rubber cheeseburger. Rubber cheeseburger. It looks good, right? It kind of looks appetizing. Yeah. Now be careful. Oh, I want to bite into it. Be careful. Don't do it. Well, thank you for being here. Thanks, Amy. Thanks for doing this. This is a pleasure. It's so great. It's great to see you. I love spending time with you. I love that you're a power player in this space now. I love it. I mean, look at me. Yeah. Can't you tell? [1:11:56] Like every power player. Yep. Yep. [1:11:59] That's what sets you apart right there. Thanks, buddy. Thanks for doing this. Thank you, Will Ferrell, for coming. You're the best. You're the king and the goat and the captain, as far as I'm concerned. And it's so, so fun to have you here. And I could have talked about all of your comedic choices for a very long time, but I just want to end in this polar plunge by talking once again about Bobby and Marty Culp. [1:12:29] Very religious singers who sing popular songs in their own special way. Do yourself a favor and go down memory lane and watch Anna Gasteyer and Will Ferrell play those two weirdos. And pay attention, please, to Will's bald cap. [1:12:50] his outfits and his gentleness, because I think that people know Will as these characters that kind of yell and, you know, have these like giant bursts of energy. But Marty Culp is just, he's just very self-contained. And it's such a funny, weird performance. And one of my favorite characters among the many that Will have given us. So thank you for joining us, Will. Thank you

[1:13:20] listening and we'll see you soon on the next one okay bye you've been listening to good hang the executive producers for this show are bill simmons jenna weiss berman and me amy poehler the show is produced by the ringer and paper kite for the ringer production by jack wilson kat spillane kaya mcmullin and alaya zanaris for paper kite production by sam green joel lovell and jenna weiss berman original music by amy miles [1:13:50] Thank you.