EPISODE 55: "SHOW&TELLINGTON" feat. Suzy Sheer aka boysinblush

[00:00] You are listening to the free version of Cloud Farm. For the full episode, sub to Patriot on Geyser. Swear down. Bye. [00:30] of like uber-thick pogs. A&W stands for hamburgers and whoop beer. Like I held it for as long as I physically could. It's not worth anyone's time to like go on a microphone and camera and sit and talk about it too much. Yeah, kind of the story of the trip. Kind of just embarrassing to go on like an interview. I'm liking the show in Tel Tecman. It was nice that you like took the time [01:00] I think it's safe to say that you have a track record of liking music. [01:04] Yeah, totally. That's something mostly what we've been talking about. I feel like.

[01:34] About maybe like... Brother of Alec Fogano. Famously brother of the girl Alec, about a kind of recent time that you ran into each other at a Kevin drum show. [01:44] oh yeah i played that show i was with kevin drum yeah that's fucking crazy all books me opening for kevin drum that's sick that is that's fucking when i would do my i used to play more of my boys and blush music live that had my vocals so i would play with a guitar and some backing tracks what a crazy lineup so funny uh yeah i i've that was a great show was that um [02:06] Thank you. [02:07] union pool and the sound was very good for kevin drum set that was a great show um nick was saying that you're a big can you talk about john wise [02:16] Oh, yeah. I love John Weiss. Yeah. Is it John Weiss? I believe so. Okay. I can't find this picture right now. I'll send it to you later. But, oh, he's great. That, my, my, [02:26] I can't remember what my introduction to them was. And it was like, like I was like 14 or like whatever, like digging through once again, like last FM related artists for like probably fucking God knows what, but like getting into like, yeah. Wolf eyes, like Aaron Dilloway, like all that American, like black dice, 2000s, like very evil. Oh, my favorite. [02:48] of that kind of kin is like yellow swans for sure from from portland they're amazing but um [02:55] Yeah, John Weiss... [02:57] in like 2020. [02:59] um... [03:00] I had gotten into his album, Soft Punk, which is out on Trouble Man, which I think was...

[03:06] Mike Simonetti's label, but um... [03:09] that album cover is just like the three marfl stacks that are like pink yeah so i actually have i've not heard this guy's music but nick was talking about it and he also like referenced that album cover yeah that album i think i must have been talking about the album with nick yeah actually just got a john meese record over here from uh i think pull that join out i forgot the name of this store it might have been nexus it's called now [03:30] But let's see. [03:32] the this album cover is quite cool um [03:35] This one is just stereo recordings of glass breaking, I'm pretty sure. But you can see them on the back here. But I really like the front cover. It's like some... Pretty nice cover. Like some... [03:48] Yeah, hold that, brandish that thing. Yeah. But, um... [03:52] I have a seven inch of his as well from the other record I'm talking about. But I don't know. His, yeah, soft punk is a great album because it's just like, you have the feeling like putting it on that it's like this like, [04:05] positioning himself is like you're gonna put it on if you don't know who it is and it's gonna sound like a really loud rock band or something but it's this crazy like [04:14] uh what's the style uh i was gonna say like cut and paste style like collagey mix of like all sorts of different it's like no i i can't even explain i guess so it's not really it's way more much more exciting to me but um yeah i like how the record's clear too it's like very clean damn i can't wait to listen to this [04:36] This one's fun. It's on SoundCloud, so you can listen to it.

[04:44] That's actually where I listen to that one. [04:46] I hope I'm going to pull this up Wait so what did you on Noise Rock and Sound like [04:51] In kind of just before COVID. [04:54] Oh, my old one? Yeah, yeah. It was kind of like this arf-hunky... Very, very... Sorry. Very inspired by... [05:04] a lot of vancouver bands that will had mentioned as well white lung or not so much white lung but like new sensei was huge for me andrea yeah from new sensei who he was talking about actually briefly [05:16] everything will said about andrea like i concur incredibly so she's an amazing person huge like inspiration to me um but uh i'd briefly played in the band with her because i think she had wanted to start this band [05:28] and have like an eight-year-old or like a six-year-old as the vocalist in it and she couldn't find one so she asked me i was kind of like this 14 year old kid around town who everyone kind of knew is this weird kid who liked all these like [05:43] incredibly [05:44] Indie Sleaze phenomenon. Yeah, yeah, exactly. These incredibly niche bands that had... The kind of heyday of the scene Will was talking about was maybe 2006 up until... [05:55] 2012 and it sort of petered out after but i'd kind of caught the last [06:00] 2014 last little like air like year a lot of these bands were active for and to this day are still like my main sources of inspiration um [06:10] this band Twin Crystals is still my favorite record of all times they're self-titled Shearing Pinks as well is an amazing... Shearing Pinks that name brings a... yeah they they are very um...

[06:20] Kind of like [06:21] mentioned in the same breath as a lot of other like noise rock acts there they were incredibly influential to me and like underpass mormon crosses blah blah blah weed of course yeah um yeah i talked i would i would talk to ian about this when i first met ian uh no that's definitely that's definitely like his bag he put out the weed record he did yeah yeah and some other like this band called ff that was great from seattle yeah i was all they also ff opened that first time i'd [06:51] this [06:52] yeah I mean people don't like I don't know that's the thing is like you can't like force anyone to get into stuff you think is cool I've like shown so many of my friends this shit and it's like [07:01] I don't know. Some people get it, some people don't. Oh, we get it. I think my cool hot... [07:09] prediction my trend forecast that has been my trend forecast for a number of years is that um this sort of not maybe too similar to this but maybe more so [07:20] uh, [07:21] like a harsh noise like industrial in terms of aesthetics and like sonically is going to have some commodified like headass like revival in the next couple of years that could be cool yeah as i mean like i don't know i guess [07:36] pharmacon got pretty popular in a way and it sounds like too slimy is yeah that's always the whenever i bring this up people are like oh too slimy but i'm like talking about more a lot of the aesthetics are like really incredibly like amazing and beautiful like the design of a lot of those like

[07:51] 80s like uh tesco like tapes and shit like that i could see someone like someone i could see like [07:57] it's like it's like an easy one to reference but like kanye like being like enraptured by that you know how he got really into like black metal as like an aesthetic yeah yeah totally like yeah yeah that's what i'm saying yeah someone's gonna have an epiphany they're gonna like [08:12] Also kind of like the high beast there, I feel like Raph Simmons can easily put people on the internet. Oh, totally. That kind of shit. [08:18] I guess there was like that one brand like Yang Li, that guy had done a lot of, he did like a noise comp or something. Yeah, that was like Psychic TV. Of course, yeah, exactly. [08:27] um [08:28] And there's also like, I was just talking about this with my girlfriend, like old cold cave and like prurians. Wearing head to toe. Yo, that was when like, when prurian put out that kind of like dance record. [08:40] Oh yeah, like under Vatican shadow? No, it was under Purim. Yeah, yeah. [08:45] was it the really long one i can't no wasn't the one with like the white cover i think so yeah like a little spiral yeah yeah oh bermuda drain maybe that was yeah bermuda drain and um i just bought [08:56] I actually have a funny prune story, but, um, [08:59] Yeah, those two records. Honestly, shout out Picture Plane for really championing that shit. Yeah, I wanted to talk about that. Yeah, very early on. I had already been aware of Purian, but watching old Picture Plane interviews when I was a kid, seeing him mention Purian a lot made me really... [09:15] visit yeah bermuda drain and frozen niagara falls is the other one they're both incredible i i remember like the picture plays away uh he put out an album not too long ago and i remember him like talking like pretty

[09:29] forthrightly about how like [09:32] the response had not been what he had hoped or envisioned and how he felt kind of like trapped for his uh algorithm logic or something for his last record his most recent thing most recent record yeah totally i mean that's a common frustration i feel like [09:48] But I thought it was cool for that reason that you, I mean, you've like, you yourself have also like championed [09:54] Mr. P. Plans Me is like pretty, pretty... Oh, yeah, of course. I mean, like, my handle is like an old song of his. Like, I... [10:02] like i did not know that yeah it's uh from his first album dark rift there's a song on it called boys and blush which i named the project after and that like boys and blush as a project is kind of like stylistically like wavered like through it doesn't it's more so just like a personal like output project at this point susie's year is a lot more linear and defined yeah but um i mean that's like to my point i was saying earlier of not having high expectations at all for anything i was like yeah [10:29] Totally not thinking that I would ever even like... [10:33] play a show with him, let alone know him as a friend. You've been putting on for him pretty consistent. Oh, of course. He's like, I mean, when I was like... [10:42] He really changed how I think about electronic music. His first two records, I always say this, and I love his newer music as well, but when I was 14, 15, or 9th grade or whatever, 16, listening to Dark Rift and The Physical, the sort of...

[11:00] way he is able to combine all these different styles and like like genres like in this crazy mix like it puts you in in your own in its own world like i was saying what patch like feels like it's completely different music but you yeah it's it's almost collage like ask like in a way where there's all these different references coming together it's it's like it's your like kind of evangelizing of him it's made me want to revisit his music because that that like oh it's [11:30] when they were also like really putting on for him was like really significant for me and like just a lot of my friends and his friends. And it's like even besides the point of everyone's always like oh yeah he coined Witch House and she did but like those first two records do so much more than like [11:43] I guess Witch House is incredible because it [11:45] is a like say the king knight is a great example of a bunch of genres being like seemingly effortlessly like that song is like spawned a culture yeah yeah totally but um [11:56] I feel like the, once again, the physical and dark riff, those records go in so many different places beyond just that. I wouldn't call those witch house records, really. There's no other music that sounds like that yet. [12:09] you hear it in so much music nowadays, especially in like rap production, like underground rap production a lot. And... [12:19] i don't know it's just like those are great i don't listen to them as much anymore because i listen to them like over and over again all day long oh no i'm talking about uh picture planes yeah yeah but um [12:29] What? [12:29] Yeah, shout out picture plan. But Prurient, like, yeah, equally so, but sort of in his own scene. What was that story? Oh, I was just, I'd bought...

[12:39] frozen niagara falls for my girlfriend it was her birthday and there's a metal record fair at um [12:44] tvi down the street so we had went over there and started our day and um there was a bunch of different little like booths there um [12:52] people had set up to like sell records is mostly metal oriented but there's also a lot of noise uh records like sprinkled in so i was digging around for those and um [13:02] there was a hospital records booth, which is Perian's like, yeah, that he operates and, uh, or hospital productions. And me and her were like kind of digging through and, um, [13:12] She works at this, like, boutique guitar store in Carroll Gardens. And there's this record that we had... [13:20] came across which is a band that we both like and she was like oh yeah the guy from this band like stopped like came came to the store like uh however long ago and um i just thought it was funny because it was like this like [13:33] like really crusty, lo-fi, like heavy, like [13:38] band uh they're called bone i actually don't want to say it but um it's a it's uh it's gonna spoil the rest of the story okay okay but um [13:47] Where was I? [13:49] uh basically here's the guy behind the booth who he hadn't looked up and like looked at at all uh as she was talking about this he just goes [13:57] Careful what you say about that guy. [13:59] and i was like who the fuck is that i look up and it's like prurient like he's just like at the booth like working it yeah and i was like oh shit that's crazy so [14:07] There wasn't too much at that booth that I was too interested in buying, but...

[14:13] I wanted to get her something she didn't have, Frozen Niagara Falls. So I got that. And then I was like, wow, this guy whose music I love is right here. I kind of want to talk to him. I just want to say whatever. So I wanted to buy something else. So I just asked him what his favorite... [14:27] thing that he'd he'd released that he has available at the booth was and he explained this uh it's the vatican shadow gray wolves uh split that they had done however long ago i think a few years ago but uh he was he told me this like insane story about the cup the cover art is i actually think i have it over here let me pull that one out sorry i'm just like showing you my records that's cool yeah [14:51] You like music. Yeah. I wish I had my, if I had my collection back in Vancouver over here, it'd be, it'd be over. [14:57] The Paul Collation. Yeah. Do I have... Did I bring this one with me? [15:01] Okay, no, I have it. All right. So he told me this really long-winded story of this sort of camo pattern. I guess his dad had been in the Navy, and... [15:12] This was a camo only used for like one year for like Desert Storm, I believe, or something like that. And he was just infatuated with it. So he... [15:20] use the sort of concept of a day camo and a night camo for both sides of the cover art. [15:24] And it's supposed to have some like meaning and representation. I don't even keep talking about it, but that was my fun prurient story. It looks swag. Yeah. [15:32] it's a good record yeah I have a lot of music I need to revisit I haven't I haven't listened to in probably like a decade at this point [15:39] He's great. [15:40] I'm [15:41] yeah we've been talking about other people so far i have a hilarious anecdote for you oh great it relates to boys and blush amazing

[15:49] Well, actually it relates to Susie. It just relates to you in general. Awesome. I don't know if you remember, but you played, this was like when Mink was on the press, as of like fully blowing up. Yeah. To the point that like. You were going to tell this story? Yeah, absolutely. If not now, then when? Yeah. This is like, this is like at the point where like, Rob had reached out to his manager and like, he felt like accessible enough for like us to like book. For sure. And like the manager, he was still like, you know, What's his name? Like Joe or something? It was when his agent was that guy, Simon. [16:19] talked to Simon okay but he was like he was like accessible enough that they still took the time to be like no I don't think that's gonna make sense which now obviously they would never like respond to begin with but um but uh we uh we linked you at the show you were playing and yeah it was me and you're with um with Tim Tim yeah love Tim wow yeah within reason within reason [16:49] tim's oh we'd love to um but uh so i had this was like late january so i just come back home from my parents place and i've been like very wholesome yeah and this is like the first night that i was fully like back on it and i had like four or five pints or something for sure i don't know what possessed me but like me you and tim went outside really yeah we i remember this we were outside we went outside and i like as a hilarious bit like put in like three zins that's right and i remember this yeah and uh for some reason like the venue like they like closed the smoking air and they

[17:19] the actual venue. And the three zins hit me really hard. And I got really, really... Were they mine? Did I give you them? No, I can't remember either. But I got really, really... You were like a mega... What's the... These are eight. I'm trying to get on six. Those are still a punch. Crazy. But I got really, really quiet and really, really pale. And I was really glad that Tim was there because I couldn't utter words. Timmy. Yeah, you needed help. I was begging for them to let us back into the venue. [17:49] like physiologically like calibrated for just like being able to beeline to the fucking toilets right hit the stall and just like puked and get over with no the line was way too i obviously like didn't consider the fucking line [18:00] and like a line was brutal dude i fucking like i held it for as long as i humanly because i physically could certain point i like hit my limit i just fucking spewed all over myself the ground and the two people like in front of wow oh wow you hit the people in front of you yep i hit their bags amazing and i like i fully thought that like oh it's over for me i'm happy everyone everyone saw that shit it's i'm like no one noticed miraculously i don't really think you should be at that venue above the age of like 20 yeah and also everyone there was like fucking 14 years [18:30] that show was really funny because there was like that person playing like ken carson and like blade like right before i went on and they i did not see the crowd that uh active at any other point in the night and i went on right after and then uh apparently people were shouting like who is this like like get off the stage that was tim dude that was constantly getting yeah that was tim yeah i was getting like uh cut off by uh whoever was djing for mink because the set times were um dude

[19:00] were trying to get this show on the road but i was like man like i came all the way here from new york i'm trying to like finish my set just because i'm like some like retard wanted to like play like blade blade songs for like another like 10 minutes it wasn't very drained out they were a lot of yeah i guess that's what they wanted so maybe i shouldn't have played that long but um oh you were very you're very gracious it was nice that you like took the time to um make me uh [19:23] barf on children. [19:53] You know who likes special entertainment like that?